Friday, August 1, 2008

The Truth About Water Powered Cars - HHO


Popular Mechanics

The Truth about water powered cars. HHO.

"There is energy in water. Chemically, it’s locked up in the atomic bonds between the hydrogen and oxygen atoms. When the hydrogen and oxygen combine, whether it’s in a fuel cell, internal combustion engine running on hydrogen, or a jury-rigged pickup truck with an electrolysis cell in the bed, there’s energy left over in the form of heat or electrons. That’s converted to mechanical energy by the pistons and crankshaft or electrical motors to move the vehicle.

Problem: It takes exactly the same amount of energy to pry those hydrogen and oxygen atoms apart inside the electrolysis cell as you get back when they recombine inside the fuel cell. The laws of thermodynamics haven’t changed, in spite of any hype you read on some blog or news aggregator. Subtract the losses to heat in the engine and alternator and electrolysis cell, and you’re losing energy, not gaining it—period. "


There are laws that everything in nature must follow. Things like gravity, and there is no free ride.

"HHO enthusiasts—from hypermilers to Average Joes desperate to save at the pump—suggest that hydrogen changes the way gasoline burns in the combustion chamber, making it burn more efficiently or faster. Okay, there have been a couple of engineering papers that suggest a trace of hydrogen can change the combustion characteristics of ultra-lean-burning stratified-charge engines. Properly managed H2 enrichment seems to increase the burn rate of the hydrocarbons in the cylinder, extracting more energy. However, these studies only suggest increases in fuel economy by a few percentage points and don’t apply unless the engine is running far too lean for decent emissions. That’s a long way from the outrageous claims of as much as 300-percent improvements in economy that I see on the Internet and in my mailbox.

There’s no reason to believe that even more modest increases claimed by some of the ads could be achieved by a conventional, computer-controlled automobile engine running under closed-loop driving—that is, the computer’s ability to sample the oxygen output of the engine’s exhaust in real time and slew the fuel/air ratio for big mpg and small emissions. The combustion chamber events are far different in the type of ultra-lean-burn engines where hydrogen enrichment has been seen to help. Ultra-lean means there’s a lot of extra oxygen around for the hydrogen to have something to react with—far more than the very modest amount we’re sucking in from the typical homebrew hydrogen generator made from a Mason jar. "


People are selling the hydrogen generators for $995 , $695 , $495 on Ebay. Its crazy that people are buying them, but they are.

I can't wait to see the results from Popular Mechanics on the testing they are doing with the HHO generator. They will help to debunk the Water for Gas myth.

1 comment:

Unknown said...

Ok im no expert and im sure you are not either, one reason I must make a comment is the simple fact about hydrogen is the potential energy of one molecule of hydrogen is 3 times that of gasoline! Whatever the thermodynamics people don't seem to understand that it is just like drilling for oil, when you harvest hydrogen we are using less of the main medium we are using 2 times less of our resource, we are reducing our emissions and for some strange reason there are people who don't build to sell these devices and in fact are actually using them and seeing a difference in fuel mileage for the positive! A perfect example is in South Carolina a small towns sheriffs dept is installing them in all there vehicles after conducting test one of there SUV's! My suggestion is to experiment yourself giving it an honest run before you make a post trying to debunk it without proving to yourselve that it does not work! Are you working for the government or the oil companies?